Monday, March 31, 2008

Spew Off Speak Out... 

So the Packers were awarded an extra 4th round compensatory pick, the 135th overall. So here's where the Packers draft picks currently stand as of today.

Rd 1 - 30th
Rd 2 - 56th (from Cleveland)
Rd 2 - 60th
Rd 3 - 91st
Rd 4 - 128th
Rd 4 - 135th (compensatory pick)
Rd 5 - 162nd
Rd 7 - 237th

and here's the draft preview from NFL.Com's Draft Tracker
    Position of Needs Analysis: QB TE OL CB - For a team that had the top offense in the NFC, the Packers still have several offensive needs. Brett Favre's retirement leaves a huge hole at QB. Aaron Rodgers assumes the starting role, but the Packers lack an adequate backup and Rodgers has shown in limited playing time that he can be injury-prone. The loss of Bubba Franks creates a void at the backup TE spot and with both starting OTs in their 30s, the team could use a young tackle. Defensively, the Packers need another cornerback. Al Harris and Charles Woodson are aging and the young reserves have not shown they are capable of starting.

    www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-team|team-gb
The first day of the NFL Draft for Rounds 1 and 2 is Saturday April 26th, and Rounds 3-7 is on Sunday April 27th.

BeerKid - Still Pack 4 Life!

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Can someone pleeeeeeezzzzzzzeee help me! I can't stand this crap. My head WILL explode! Please, Packers re-sign Craig Nall!!!
    "Odds and ends

    Among the rumors circulating at the meetings was the Packers’ apparent interest in veteran quarterbacks A.J. Feeley of the Philadelphia Eagles and J.P. Losman of the Buffalo Bills. Both are under contract with their current teams but have been the subject of trade rumors.

    The Packers are interested in a veteran backup for first-year starter Aaron Rodgers.

    “It’d be nice I suppose because there’s an advantage to some experience,” Thompson said, “but I think more important it’s to find a guy who can play if we need him to step in.”

beerscout
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Annette Summersett - The Day Football Died


lemme know what ya think.

Lemondrop


Hey Lemondrop, Annette's song speaks for itself... "So I grabbed a beer and went outside, raised my Old Milwaukee to the sky..." BK
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Hey Beerkid, Looks like Son of Favros, aka A-ROGHA, is going to get it up against the Queens on Monday night for the opener! I hope dude don't get broke in his 1st start! But what we do have going for us is the fact that the Queens are a weak, pathetic, girly mans excuse of a football team AND THE PACKERS on the other hand are a strong whiskey and a beer drinking, working, woman loving man's man team that will crush those mother fuckers on Monday Night! 09/08/08 can't wait!

Das. Wolf - Pissed in NorCal



Hey Das. Wolf, it's great that the Packers will be hosting the Vikings on Monday Night Football to start the NFL season, big game, but it drives me nuts when the Packers don't play on Sunday. We'll see how the rest of the schedule pans out in the next week, if the NFL doesn't delay releasing it again.BK
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The Packers drafted Don Horn with the 25th pick in the first round of the 1967 draft, presumably to replace Bart Starr. In spot duty, he had a QB rating of 70.0 his rookie year. In his 2nd year, he came in to one game and was 10 of 16 for 187 yards and 2 tds, a rating of 142. I guess he showed he was ready to replace a legend.

Well, maybe not. I hope to hell history doesn't repeat itself with the 24th pick in the draft we spent on a QB to replace a legend.

Ruppert


Hey Ruppert, thanks for the comparison, I'm not to worried about how Aaron Rodgers will play this year, but it's going to battle for the Packers to win the division or return to the playoffs. But right now, my confidence level is high. BK
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BK, Happy Easter!!! Thanks for continuing to run the best Packer Fan website! You always have interesting Packer stuff…

Here’s one I found kinda by accident, that may/may not be worth of posting:

www.packersuniforms.com/

Maybe you’ve already perused it… I found the website very admirable, but looks like it still needs some work, which owner admits. Towards the beginning of the website, he talks about getting Mitchell and Ness to make a Don Hutson throwback jersey. Great idea, I agree. Don was amazing. He brings up some excellent arguments. We’ve got a couple Canadeos… Sweet jerseys…

The rendition of Wolf’s plan for uniforms is kinda cool. Sorry, but I just couldn’t get rid of the current Gold (yellow), love it too much. At the end he mentions that the Packers and 1/3 of the league didn’t implement the Captains “C” patch. That’s not accurate - towards the end of the season at least, the Pack did. I sent him a pic of Tracy White from the JS wearing the “C”…

BTW, got three new sets of personalized ‘sconi plates comin’… send pics when they arrive... GO PACK, GO!!!

Boz

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BK, Here’s the link to some information on Packer Great, 1989 NFL HOF, Willie Wood. You probably saw this Journal Sentinel article on Mr. Wood. Sad to hear that he has been experiencing so many health problems at such an early age of 71. I’ve had the great honor three times to meet and shake hands with Mr. Wood. He has an awesome, quiet, historic presence. It sounds like he has improved a little from an article I read about him over a year ago though, that must have been after he broke his hip: www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=727694

Here’s a link to an article that lists his address if you would like to send him a letter of encouragement: blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/03/14/letters-for-willie-wood.aspx

Quote from the Packers website about HOF Willie Wood: “Respected for his toughness and ability to play through injury, Wood played 166 consecutive games over his Packers career, a stretch bettered by only Brett Favre and Forrest Gregg.”

Here’s the rest: www.packers.com/history/hall_of_famers/wood_willie/

We Love ya Mr. Wood! Go Pack, Go!

Boz

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Quoth Lombardi...

Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate.

Friday, March 28, 2008

Son Of Favros... 

If you loved what we did in the first installment of Football God of War, well now we'll be the objects of your adoration forever. It's returned, "Football God of War II - Son of Favros". Your green and gold life will now be complete with this new edition to the gaming family.

Now that the old football war god, B. Lorenzo Favros has retired to his golden throne and greener pastures to do whatever retired gods do, who's left to defend the battlefield of football play, well it's his barely bloodied QB backup of a son, that's who.

After 3 years of intensive training, the Son of Favros is ready to go on the attack and defend the fabled lands of northern Green Bay from invading hordes that only the Old Gods of the NFL can bring. He's a player with no past, his future unwritten before him and although untested in lengthy battle, he's ready to compete and earn his name. You'll just love it. With the newly improved "Meat Slicing Blades of Lambeau" you'll be able to hack your way through all those that would oppose your ascension to the Gates of Lambeau during the upcoming NFL football season.

Worried about your general stamina and specifically about injuries to your legs, no problem this year, with the "Wings of St. Vincent" wrapped around and guarding your every move, injuries are no longer a problem, now able to withstand hits that would cripple an ordinary man, you'll be ready to battle week in and week out.

Reach the final rounds and break the legendary Gates of Lambeau, unlock hidden levels and secret treasures. You'll be able to enter the Playoff Round mini-games, conquer them all, and you'll find yourself facing off in the biggest baddest bossiest battle ever created, the "Arena of Super Bowl Champions". Bloody gore is all that will be left in your wake, rated for Mature Audiences, it's fun for the whole family.

Like the previous edition, "Football God of War II - Son of Favros" is available in all known formats. X-Box 360, PlayStation, Nintendo, PC, MAC, DOS, Gameboy, Amiga, TRS-80 and many other fine gaming consoles everywhere. Not available in the continental United States or anywhere on Planet Earth for that matter. Not yet anyway, but you are forewarned, Son of Favros has arrived.

Quoth Lombardi...

If you can accept losing you can't win. If you can walk you can run. No one is ever hurt. Hurt is in your mind.

Thirsty For A Draft... 

Some thoughts on the upcoming NFL Draft for the Green Bay Packers. They will almost certainly take a QB in the draft, the question will be how early, and what kind of ability that player will bring to the field. The Packers have made almost no serious attempt at acquiring a veteran backup QB. They've talked with Quinn Gray, Trent Green, Gus Ferotte and maybe Tim Rattay, but come on, Craig Nall is better than any of those guys.

Any QB with any talent is starting or under contract already, the pickings are slim. So the Packers are bound to draft QB, it just a question of whether it's with 1 of the 2nd round picks, or a 2nd day 3rd round pick. I can't imagine GM TT using the 1st round pick, well I can imagine that scenario, but I don't think it will come to pass this year.

With the free agent signing of LB Brandon Chillar, you would think that takes off some of the priority of drafting a LB early on in the draft. With current LB's AJ Hawk, Nick Barnett, Brady Poppinga, special teams ace Tracy White, Desmond Bishop, and bad-knee'd Abdul Hodge, I don't see a roster spot available. Defensive needs center around cornerbacks and defensive ends. Offensive needs center around running backs, tight ends and offensive linemen. The draft's only a month away...

BeerKid - Still Pack 4 Life!

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30.  Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech - Aaron Rodgers says, “Finally!” And so it begins- the post-Favre era in Green Bay. It will surely be different seeing the Packers without #4 out there, but all good things must come to end (or a Corey Webster pick). Speaking of CB’s, it’s kind of ironic how the Packers have arguably one of the top CB duo’s in the league, and yet their #1 need is unquestionable at CB. It really speaks to how the NFL has evolved into a passing league. We all knew Brandon Flowers wasn’t going to run a very fast 40-yard dash, so I don’t understand what all this fuss is about. Again, if you look at the film, Flowers is a first round pick. He doesn’t have ideal height, he might not have the incredible recovery speed you’d get from the other CB’s (4.38’s have us spoiled this year, let’s be honest), but the kid can flat out play. Physical and feisty in the running game, Flowers isn’t a guy you want going one-up with Randy Moss. However, in a zone, there isn’t a more dangerous DB in the country. A playmaker, Flowers had 5 picks as a junior, after posting 3 in his breakout season as a sophomore (he also recorded 18 passes defended that year).

Consensus Draft Services
condraft.com/mocks/round-1.html
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30.  Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona, Sr., 6-0, 191 - The Packers are another team that can draft the best player available. They have a solid nucleus all around, but adding a young corner makes sense. Charles Woodson and Al Harris are getting older, so drafting a young CB will be beneficial down the road. Arizona's Antoine Cason is a polished corner with excellent skills and will have the opportunity to learn from two of the best.

Chris Steuber - NFL Scout Experts
profootballexperts.scout.com/2/735164.html
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30.  Dan Connor, OLB, Penn St. - Linebacker, like running back, seems to be a position that a lot of teams sleep on. This time, it's to the benefit of the Pack who like the Bills last year get to snap up an excellent prospect from Linebacker U. Rumor is, Connor may be better than Posluszny. If that's the case, a trio of Hawk, Barnett, Connor will be tough on the NFC.

56.  Charles Godfrey, CB, Iowa - A physical DB that really fits their scheme well.

60.  Brad Cottam, TE, Tennessee - Fast riser coming back from injury for a team that loves the TE spot.

Jason Babler - NFL Draft Guys
nfldraftguys.com/features/08_mock_draft_babler_030608.php
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30.  Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College - The Packers would like to see Rodgers-Cromartie still available, which is a strong possibility, but may need choose the best player available this deep in the first- round, while still addressing their needs. CB Reggie Smith, CB Brandon Flowers, and TE Fred Davis have are viable choices as well.

Big Snack - Pierogisnat
pierogisnat.blogspot.com/2008/03/nfl-mock-draft.html
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30.  Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona - All of a sudden the Packers are in pretty good shape. Al Harris and Charles Woodson can still get it done as starting corners, but depth is a big concern. Cason also adds ability on returns as he demonstrated against Oregon this year. He scored two touchdowns, one on an interception and another on a punt return. During the combine Cason ran well enough to get back into round one.

56.  Martellus Bennett, TE, Texas A & M - The Packers got a great season out of Donald Lee who posted 48 receptions for 575 yards and 6 touchdowns. He was incredibly consistent with 3+ catches in twelve of their first thirteen games. That being said, Bubba Franks is out. Bennett’s size makes him capable to help block for the running game and be another threat inside the 10. They can grab the best player available while also filling a need with this extra pick acquired for defensive tackle Corey Williams

60.  Cliff Avril, OLB/DE, Purdue - Someone to push Brady Poppinga opposite of A.J. Hawk is definitely a need. It is possible they feel hard working rookie Desmond Bishop deserves a shot at competing there, but his future might be replacing Nick Barnett in the middle a few years down the road. Avril is a very intriguing addition for them because he could fill the KGB role rushing the passer or stick at outside linebacker.

91.  Heath Benedict, OT/OG, Newberry - The Packers are getting old at the tackle positions. Also, right now other than Spitz looking set at one starting guard spot several others including Colledge, Barbre and Coston could be competing for the other spot. Benedict provides some versatility which is key on the Packer line.

Gregory Cox - The Football Expert
thefootballexpert.com/coxmockdraft.html
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30.  Reggie Smith, S, Oklahoma - Another young safety in Green Bay? Actually, in this defense he projects as a CB, and brings a very similar game to Woodson.

56.  Ahtyba Rubin, DT, Iowa State

60.  Craig Stevens, TE, California

Armin - PH Sports
phsports.blogspot.com/2008/03/2008-nfl-draft-mock-draft-10.html
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30.  Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas - Talib disappointed at the Combine, but he blanketed the likes of Sweed, Kelly, and Bowman at Kansas, and the slow field at Lambeau will help him.

56.  Oneil Cousins, OT, UTEP -

60.  Dre Moore, DT, Maryland -

91.  Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky -

Uncle Heatster
www.199overall.com/?q=node/27
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30.  Reggie Smith, S, Oklahoma - The Packers greatest weakness is in their secondary where their two safeties have been inconsistent and their nickel back Jarrett Bush has really struggled. Both Atari Bigby and Nick Collins have shown flashes of brilliance, but they have both shown that they can be beat. I think that Smith would be a great pick for Green Bay as he has the versatility to play both cornerback and safety at the next level. He would be capable of having an instant impact for the Packers.

56.  Heath Benedict, OT, Newberry - Green Bay recently traded defensive tackle Corey Williams to the Browns. In return, they received this pick. I think that Green Bay could go a number of ways here. Their offensive line could really use some depth as their two tackles are aging and the interior of the line has battled injuries and inconsistency. Rinehart played tackle in college, but is being projected more as a guard at the next level. However, he has the size to play tackle if needed.

60.  Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina - While the Packers have Ryan Grant, there is always room to add another playmaker to an offense. Johnson has elite speed and is a fantastic kick returner, something that the Packers could use. Their return game hasn't been stellar, which is why Johnson would help. I could also see them addressing the offensive line.

Shawn Zobel's Draft Headquarters
www.draftheadquarters.com/index.php/NFL-Draft-College-Football-Draft/Home/cat_id/34343
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30.  Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas - This would be a great situation for Green Bay: the chance to take either Aqib Talib or Arizona CB Antoine Cason at this spot. I give the nod to Talib in this spot, but either player (or even another corner like Virginia Tech CB Brandon Flowers) could be a wonderful addition to the team. It's also possible that the Packers could target an offensive tackle (like Pitt OT Jeff Otah), but with so much cornerback quality on the board here, I'd think that CB would be the most likely way for Green Bay to go.

Draft King
www.draftking.com/nfl/2008/mockdraft.shtml
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30.  Brian Brohm, QB, Lousiville - What the heck, right? Favre just retired. You don’t know if Aaron Rodgers can handle the load. Why not? And if not Brohm now, you have to cover your bases in the 2nd or 3rd round so why not give it a shot?

Riggo's Rag
riggosrag.com/2008/03/04/2008-nfl-mock-draft-v-2/
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Quoth Lombardi...

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

Speak Out Spew Off... 

Slow news month for the Packers after Brett Favre retired, LS Rob Davis also retires and joins the front office, LB Brandon Chillar has joined the Packers, giving us 4 potential starters, his forte is covering the TE, something LB Brady Poppinga struggled with. However, Poppinga has shown decent ability to play DE on pass-rushing downs. The rest is all speculation on the Packers draft coming up.

In other news, we finally got around to activating the RSS Feed for Packer Palace. You can go here to check out what it represents and subscribe to our feed. Never be more than a few clicks away from seeing a preview on whatever the hell we've been talking about here.

Which brings us full circle to our favorite Packer Transplants, that would be Corey and Aaron over at Cheesehead TV. They've just debuted their Packer World section of their website. Get the quick preview of what's happening in the world of the Green Bay Packers. It's much better than the traditional links page, and now that they've put in the effort to collect all this info, we here at Packer Palace won't have to. Thanks guys, we tip our cheese-heads to you.

BeerKid - Still Pack 4 Life!

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Favre-Dor Kicks Ass!!

Scott S
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Packers Tell Fans They Gave Favre To A Nice Farm Family

JM
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Congrats to Mr. Thompson on his award. The award itself is stupid, but Ted's winning it means that the award givers think he's going a good job. I think he's done a very good job to this point as well, but none of it really matters until 2008 and beyond: the Post-Favre era.

Also, Thompson WAS in the Packers' Personnel Department from 92-98. I'd love to know what players he had a hand in getting during that time period. Time for another homebrew.

Ruppert
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Ted Thompson may be in the process of revealing the well kept little secret that lots of NFL players are way overpaid because of foolish owners and GMs. I have to admit that I love my sacred cow Packers. I hate it every time a Gilbert Brown or Ahman Green gets away due to retirement or free agency. Like most Packer fans, I get loyal to the "Players" and forget that any winning organization needs new blood constantly.

What I believe that Thompson eschews is the idea that other than the very few elite super stars, there are a lot of "guys" who can play well for a fair payday. Working stiffs like us tend to get a little jaded when we hear about some poor sucker having to sign for the paltry minimum of a half-million dollars. To most people, that is 10-20 years pay.

Thompson and McCarthy will face their biggest test with the retirement of Brett Favre. If they manage to avoid an enormous drop off, I will be a true believer. Until then, I am a supporter, but not fully invested in their program.

DraftFan
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Does any one know if Arod made it back from racing sled dogs in Alaska? to make the Packer training camp?

Lemondrop
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Hey BK, How come I was never consulted on my opinion for a cheesecake nominee?! I feel like an old shoe.....

Anyway, here's my pick. My boy, Donal Driver. The guys at my PackerClub rag on him for having 'toothpicks for legs', but the boy is tough. Can take hits better than some guys I've seen. Has a great smile, good personality, plays hard, and looks like he's in goooood shape, as you'll see on one of the pics I'm sendin' ya.

He and Brett were always my faves. So, I think he should be considered.

Lady K
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Hey BeerKid....... Just a quick kudos from me to TT. Took a quick look and Ahman Green had about 400 yds. total last year, TE David Martin 300 yds. and lets not forget about Rivera who hurt his back before the first year w/Dallas and never was the same while he lasted and Wahle only had a good year or two at the Panthers. If TT had went the other route w/those players, we'd still have cap problems and probably similar results, if early playoff exits are what you want. Only thing you can blame him about would be not getting them replaced real well, but it's probably a little tougher to do than alot of the know-it-alls out there think.

I'm going out on a limb right away and predicting better things for Rodgers than Favre. Less stats, but more SB victories, only takes one to tie. Favre looked worn out at the 3/4 mark last year and started to get away from the good things he was doing, going back to the long passes, double/triple coverage throws. The Pack lost the play-off game in some part due to the fact that Manning was alot more accurate and out-played him....

Lastly, I see Grant wants a bunch of money now. He looks solid and durable but I'm not sure I see him being spectacular. I think the Pack needs to wait another year w/him for a big contract. Nine games is not alot to base it on unless they feel real good about him. As always, I think they need to adjust salary's to accommodate playing time and position. I think that needs to be done w/alot of players from pretty much the 3rd or 4th round on down if they become starters.

Long Live the Pack!!!
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Brandon Chillar now a Packer. I can just see the head lines now after a great game "Pack puts the "Chill" on the Viqueens offense" Or "Packers Chillar is red hot"

Welcome to a REAL team Brandon, you will fit right in with the rest of the "hit squad" when the other team has the ball. Now if we can just sign a player with the last name of Whop-ass...

OldSchool Fan
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rar

BOB


Hey BOB, we weren't sure what you were referring to, so I went to a Urban Dictionary to check: a phrase used when 1) someone is angry and doesn't know what to say, 2) someone is trying to imitate a lion or tiger, or 3) as a form of greeting - So we'll take choice #3 and call it as a form of greeting... thanks for stopping by. Go Pack! BK
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I think it primarily comes down to the fact that tt is CHEAP !(of course the fact that Nall isn't a "tt guy" might well have something to do with as well) Pay Nall... or pay Gray... pay somebody. I do NOT believe that Rogers will play more than 10 games in 08 and the Packers ae going to have to have somebody who at the least isn't going to hurt them...

Coach Carl
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SWEET!! I heard a rumor that Chuck Norris was arrested trying to break into Canton to steal Favres jock!? Any validity to this?..... Stallone maybe, but Chuck?

Big Ern said so!!!!
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Quoth Lombardi...

It's easy to have faith in yourself and have discipline when you're a winner, when you're number one. What you've got to have is faith and discipline when you're not yet a winner.

Sunday, March 23, 2008

Favros Is Coming... 

Usually one thinks of the Son of God on Easter Sunday, but we're thrilled to announce a more sports oriented sort of god. It's the "Football God Of War - B. Lorenzo Favros Edition". An aging football warrior again faces epic battles from the field brought back from his past to be re-lived in fun for the family (Rated MA - Mature Audiences Only) vivid gory bloody graphic detail. Take on the Ancient Gods of Football on the field of play, only this time your armed and dangerous.

Successfully complete a TD throw, and the "Meat Slicing Blades of Lambeau" will score higher damage points. Fourth and 26? No problem this time. Use the "Rage of Vincent Lightning" to obliterate all those that stand before you, QB sneaks were never so easy when you're the only one left standing on the field of play with health and magic levels refreshed.

Win a argument with your head coach (use the "Butcher Blade of Green Bay" repeatedly, to keep the conversation short) and instantly unlock new secrets and hidden levels. Replay the Ice Bowl, a fan favorite, no one is tackling you when you have your "Burning Badger Shield" ignited, with all the flame and ashes, "Run to Daylight" takes on new meaning.

Other hidden treasures include the Favros is God Mode feature. In this auto-play mode, you trigger the blinking Blitz Beer icon that flashes at the beginning of play and you can just sit back and watch 18 un-interrupted hours of Favros waging football warfare in an automatic "set to win" setting, and enjoy your favorite brew to boot.

Best part yet, it's available in all formats. X-Box 360, PlayStation, Nintendo, PC, MAC, DOS, Gameboy, Amiga, TRS-80 and did we mention 18 hours of auto-play, you can even get it on CD and audio cassette for your listening pleasure. Format friendly Favros is Coming...


Not available in the continental United States or anywhere on Planet Earth for that matter. Not yet anyway. Be prepared, Favros is Coming!

Thursday, March 20, 2008

Spew Off Speak Out... 



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OK, so NO LOGICAL answers as to why Craig Nall is not in the running. Backup for Favre for a number of years, 6'3", beat out the menagerie of idiots that Mike Sherman brought in (for McKenzie!), took some money, pulled a hamstring, JP whoever made the team...all I know is that he has a QB rating of something like 129 and they just brought in an old guy Gus...grrrrr, my head is expanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tirademan (aka beerscout)

P.S. Shit, I forgot to put this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bWB0-VBq6k in my post... it is crucial for my redundancy!
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Now I'm not saying that people don't or can't redeme themselves but I just saw Gus ferottes famous "Oh crap I broke my own neck" headbut after actually scoring a touchdown on "10 dumbest plays ever" NFL network.....NO sir you cannot play on our team you suck!Somebody give this dude one of the left-over sandwitches from the day room and cab fare and lets get down to football..Seriously gus ferotte??!

BIg Ern said so!!!!
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a good way to remember the season that was... enjoy and pass it on.. (turn on volume and press play): http://www.packersnews.com/includes/newspaper/assets/soundslides/2008/020208thisoldman/

about time
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Re: the cheesecake pictures, you post plenty of Brett too and that's easy on the eyes! I guess we'll have to find a new poster boy. So far Rodgers doesn't do it for me. Maybe Donald Driver... or Korey Hall.

lostinutah
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Regarding Craig Nall--Sure, bring him in to camp. But how good can a guy be who couldn't even beat J.P. Losman out of a job? Sirius radio today seems to think that they should sign Gus Frerotte (or some other established vet) for a backup, then draft a project to be 3rd stringer.

Ruppert
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Yeah great but how do we get'em outta minnisota?!I hear dr.kivorkian is running for govenor there that could be one option!I wonder how he does with b--rs??? HAPPY ST.PATRICKS DAY!!! GO PATRICK GO!!! I mean PACK!!

Big Ern said so!!!!
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Being a history buff, I'm always happy to learn the true story of St. Patrick and the Minnesota Vikings. (Truth be told, I have more than a little Scandihoovian blood in me, but it bleeds GREEN and GOLD !! ) GO PACK !

Grouser
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While watching the yearly St.Patricks Day movies I saw an old movie about an Irish cop who retires and who's daughter marries a Scottish cop (to his dismay) and the bar window features BLITZ BEER where can I locate such a heavenly brew?? I live in N.California where the only good beer is Anchor Steam.

Big Ern said so!!!!


Hey Big Ern!!! It must be a Blitz Weinhard sign, when we originally crossed Blatz with a Schlitz bottle to get a football related beer name -- Blitz -- I was not even aware (apparently BeerScout was... beer can collector in his youth) of old Blitz Weinhard in Oregon. BK
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Hey Beerkid - my real name is Colleen (no kidding!) Happy St. Patrick's Day, Packer Fans!

lostinutah


Hey Colleen, any more women show up here and I'll have to start supplementing the cheesecake pictures with beefcake pictures, ummm Happy St. Paddy's Day.BK
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Hey Beerkid, I love the post "The Birth Of Packer Palace..." You guys ever gonna get some permalinks? You guys are true Packer PIONEERS!

pack 4 life

Corey @ Cheesehead TV



Hey Corey, the true url for Birth of Packer Palace is here - http://www.packerpalace.com/blogold/2008_03_01_archives.html#656302020427918960 - I've been patiently waiting for the Titletown Awards package to arrive. We're going to break out the Magnum of Blue Chimay and throw a toast to you guys, hopefully we'll have video, and not just a voice-over of the janitor complaining about the passed out bodies and general mess. Go Pack! BK
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Oh good. Groundhogs day is gone. And them I come in here and read that song (see below, Southern Miss Pride). I can't afford more Kleenex. Thank God I am a Packer fan with some toilet paper.

Lemondrop
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Quoth Lombardi...

Success is like anything worthwhile. It has a price. You have to pay the price to win and you have to pay the price to get to the point where success is possible. Most important, you must pay the price to stay there.

Monday, March 17, 2008

Beannachtai na feile Padraig... 




Happy St. Patrick's Day

History Of St. Patrick's Day...


St Patrick's Day is celebrated on March 17th in commemoration of that historical figure's act of driving the Norwegians out of Ireland. It seems that centuries ago, many Norwegians came to Ireland to escape the bitterness of the Norwegian winters. Ireland was having a famine at the time and food was very scarce. The Norwegians were eating almost all the fish caught in the sea, leaving the Irish with nothing but potatoes.

St Patrick, taking things into his own hands, decided the Norwegians had to go. Secretly he organized the IRATRION (Irish Republic Army to Rid Ireland of Norwegians). Irish members of IRATRION sabotaged all the power plants in hopes the fish the Norwegians kept in refrigerators would spoil, forcing the Norwegians to a colder climate where their fish would keep. The fish spoiled, all right, but the Norwegians, as everyone knows, thrive on spoiled fish.

Faced with failure, the Irish sneaked into the Norwegians fish storage caves in the dead of night and sprinkled the rotten fish with lye, hoping to poison the Norwegian intruders. But, miraculously, the Norwegians thrived on this new concoction and dubbed the smelly lye-soaked fish "Lutefisk".

Matters became even worse for the Irishmen when the Norwegians started taking over the Irish potato crop and making lefse. Poor St. Patrick was at his wits end, and finally on March 17th, he blew his top and told the Norwegians to go to Hell. And it worked. All the Norwegians left Ireland and moved to Minnesota.

Saturday, March 15, 2008

Southern Miss Pride... 

To the tune American Pie by Don Mclean

A long, long time ago I can still remember
how Brett used to make me smile
and I knew if he had his chance
he could make those Packer fans dance
And maybe they'd be happy for a while.

But March 4 made me shiver
With the news ESPN delivered,
Bad news on the internet,
he grew too tired to take one more step,.

I can remember that I cried
When I read about his Packer pride,
something touched me deep inside,
The day, that Brett Favre, cried.
So...

Bye, bye Southern Miss Pride,
Drove my Chevy to Lambeau and not one eye was dry,
Dem good ol' boys were eatin brats on rye,
Singin, yeah der, will dis be the day that I die.
will dis be the day that I die, der.

Did Reggie write the book of love
And do you have faith in Vince above,
If the game plan tells you so.
And do you believe in curly Lambeau?
Can Vince’s statue save a cheese heads soul?
And can you teach me how to Lambeau leap real slow?

Well I know that we're in love with him
is a man crush really such a sin.
Madden wipe the drool off your chin.
As we watch another TD, with a huge grin

When #4 began I was a teenage bronkin' buck
watchin the Pack and thinkin what the fuck.
But we knew we were out of luck,
The day, Brett Favre, cried.
I started singin...

Bye, bye Southern Miss Pride,
Drove my Chevy to Lambeau and not one eye was dry,
Dem good ol' boys were eatin brats on rye,
Singin, yeah der, will dis be the day that I die.
will dis be the day that I die, der.

Now for 29 years we were off the NFL throne,
But with Brett the Lombardi trophy, it came home,
and that’s the way it needs to be,
While Majik recovered from an injured splien,
Favre completed another pass to Sterling
Max Mcgees voice that came from you and me,

Oh and all we needed was a first down,
Favre would pass for another touchdown
The courtroom was adjourned;
No verdict was returned.
and the play stood as called on the field

Bye, bye Southern Miss Pride,
Drove my Chevy to Lambeau and not one eye was dry,
Dem good ol' boys were eatin brats on rye,
Singin, yeah der, will dis be the day that I die.
will dis be the day that I die, der.

2 a days in a summer swelter
autographs at the Nitchke center,
Eight miles high and fallin' fast.
another pass in a Packers grasp.
The players tried for a forward pass
With Rodgers on the sidelines in a cast.
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Now the half-time air was sweet perfume
While the Wisconsin Band played a marching tune.
We all got up to dance
every time Favre gave us the chance.
AS the Bears offense tried to take the field
Packers O refused to yield.
Do you recall what was revealed
The day Brett Favre cried?

Bye, bye Southern Miss Pride,
Drove my Chevy to Lambeau and not one eye was dry,
Dem good ol' boys were eatin brats on rye,
Singin, yeah der, will dis be the day that I die.
will dis be the day that I die, der.
Oh and there we were all in one place,
A generation lost in space
With no time left to start again.
So come on, Brett be nimble, Brett be quick.
One more year , it’s not time to quit
Because winning has become the Packers closest friend

Oh and as we watched him on the stage,
Holmgrens hands were clinched in fists of rage,
No DB born in hell
Could break #4’s spell.
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw the NFC north laughing with delight,
The day, Brett Favre, cried.
They were singin'...

Bye, bye Southern Miss Pride,
Drove my Chevy to Lambeau and not one eye was dry,
Dem good ol' boys were eatin brats on rye,
Singin, yeah der, will dis be the day that I die.
will dis be the day that I die, der.

I met a fan who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news
But she just smiled and turned away.
I went down to the pro shop store
Where I'd bought #4 jerseys years before
But the man there said that Brett wouldn't play.

And in the streets the children screamed,
The lovers cried, and the fans dreamed.
But not a word was spoken,
The records all were broken.

And the three men I admire most,
Vince, Reggie, and the Holy Ghost,
They caught the last train for the coast,
The day, Brett Favre, cried.
And they were singin'...
The day Brett Favre cried.

They were singing
Bye, bye Southern Miss Pride,
Drove my Chevy to Lambeau and not one eye was dry,
Dem good ol' boys were eatin brats on rye,
Singin, yeah der, will dis be the day that I die.
will dis be the day that I die, der.

Bye, bye Southern Miss Pride,
Drove my Chevy to Lambeau and not one eye was dry,
Dem good ol' boys were eatin brats on rye,
Singin, yeah der, will dis be the day that I die.
will dis be the day that I die, der.

Anonymous Favre Fan

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Wednesday, March 12, 2008

Speak Out Spew Off... 

OK, I know I started the Craig Nall fan club here, and don't follow football as much as Beerkid or probably most of you out there, but can someone give me a logical reason why the Packers are not giving "6'3" Rocket Arm" Craig Nall a chance at being BACKUP to Aaron Rogers? Anyone? A logical reason? Or is my head going to explode when the Packers spend time, money, and possibly a draft pick on either some really old guy, or a 5th round unknown prayer?

tirademan (aka beerscout)

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The universe will unfold as it should the better man will prevail but yes my head will explode if we have a "typical TT" draft and get somewaterboy from eastpolytechnical institute in south west north nowhere for our first rounder.....Are you listening Teddy??

Big Ern said so!!!!
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Scout, Since we have no proven QB, I would leave all options open. We need more than one backup that will give us a chance if AR has an early season injury. I am not sure either one of these guys will lead us to the promised land. I would like to see an ongoing effort looking at the draft and free agents.

Now we get to start seeing how lucky we have been the last couple of decades. All of a sudden back up QB's are something we are concerned about.

CAMP
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Is it true Jerry Glanville thought Favre Darlin' was from Mississippi State or some other "BIG" school and Jerry called him Mississippi cause he had trouble rememberin' Favre Darlins name. Wouldn't it be cool if The Packers got another Favre Darlin' as a 5th round pick. Nall has a "rocket arm?" I forgot he even playin' fer De Pack. I thunked he retired a few years back.

texaspacker
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Laura Ingraham Sucks. Period.

lostinutah
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Hear ya beerscout Who is Jerry Babb and Dalton Bell? Any one?

Lemondrop
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Well, I just got my 3 'commemorative editions' newspaper articles in the mail from the GB Press Gazette. (sigh) It's really sinking in.....this is not a bad dream. I am awake, and Brett did retire. This is when being a fan really takes on a new meaning for me. I've never had to root for another QB as long as I've been a fan of the Pack. This is gonna be a weird transition. I actually realize how blessed we've been to have this unique opportunity, to watch the same guy at the starting position for 17 years. What a wonderful thing to be a part of. Not just a occasional spectator, but an actual fan--not only of Brett, but the entire Packers team, year in and year out.
I know I will treasure all of my memories of 'ol #4 and how each time he let go of the ball, my heart would drop in my stomach with anticipation and anxiety. How when a receiver would catch one of those infamous long balls, how it would bring me out of my seat. And yes, when he would throw an IT, how I would want to throw my chair into a wall. But that's football, and he's made it fun each and every week.

Now we get to find out how good the rest of team really is; we're gonna need to see their grit, because Rodgers is gonna need a little bit of time to get settled in and get comfortable. Let's hope they team will step up their game and make him look good. : ) Until then, all I can do is wait until August, not counting the draft. Again, thanks to Brett for 17 awesome years! Enjoy your retirement, and may God bless you and your family.

(now that he's gonna be hunting more, I have to wonder if he'll take a little of GB back with him to Mississippi. You know, the beloved 'blaze orange' fashion craze in hunting garb? I hear that green/brown camoflauge is the color of choice down there. Maybe he'll start a new thing....)

Lady K
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beerscout, I don't know much about Nall, but I did see him play the Detroit game (remember THAT one T-Bone?) after they pulled Brett and he did pretty well. Of course, the Lions were playing like little girls, but I saw enough to say maybe he should get a shot.

lostinutah
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Man I thought the same thing when I saw the list of backups to A-Rog. I was like man what up with Nall? Something must be up with that dude if Buffalo and GB haven't kept him on the roster. That's what bible thumping gets you these days. I say balls to the wall with Nall!

Das Wolf - Pissed in Nor Cal
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...just heard the Laura Ingrahm 'thing' (see below for link). What, does she not have anything better to do in her day than to berate someone who is emotional about having to quit doing the thing they love?

I can't believe she was soooo harsh in her criticism about how Favre was at the podium. Saying this was a bad example for little boys. So, what? Now boys can't show emotion? Part of being a real man is showing your real feelings and being ok with it. I applaud Brett for being real, and allowing us the fans to see this side of him. For allowing us into his personal life for so many years. You'd think he'd become 'plastic' after living his life in the spotlight for so long. But that was never the case. What you saw on the field was also what you saw off the field. Same goes for his family.

So Laura, until you can talk about something you really have a good grasp on, SHUT UP!! You're an idiot who doesn't deserve to critique others. Stay over in politics, because you certainly don't know SQUAT when it comes to real people.

Lady K
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not sure who here hasn't heard the spew radio talk show host laura ingraham blew on her show but if you haven't, you'll wanna read this:

Conservative Talk Radio Host Laura Ingraham can blow me.

it concerns our dear Favre. (i thought i posted this link here but maybe it was another site)

GO PACK IN 2008! (even if Brett's not playing - ooo... that doesn't roll off the tongue well; never had to say that)

Jeff I. in LA
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OMG...its Ground Hogs Day again. This one is really lasting and hurtful, this one is really BAD !

Lemondrop
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T-Bone, Your mom goes to college.

Luke
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Normally I don't comment on douche-bags like "t-bone" but I have to know......Hey you b**tch are you the same t-bone who borrowed 20$ from my bud when I visited Sterling Heights Mi.? And we saw you later that day buyin' crack?Cus it sounds like you.But anyhow good luck next season(you'll need it)

Big Ern said so!!!!
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CHANCE TO BE IN FAVRE BOOK - I'm the author of "Brett Favre: A Packer Fan's Tribute" and I'm looking for tributes to Favre written by fans. Some of the tributes will appear in the next edition of my book, which is due out in fall 2008.

Write about what you loved about Favre, or your favorite memory of him, and send it to me at tkerch@yahoo.com. A few sentences or a few paragraphs is best, but if you're really passionate, don't hold back.

For more information about the book, see: Brett Favre: A Packer Fan's Tribute: Revised and Expanded

Tom K.
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If Brett Favre fought chuck norris,I think chuck may have a slight edge, but he can't throw a 60 yard over the shoulder pass into double coverage for tha win either!Now can he?!?

Big Ern said so!!!!
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what's with the "over-hyped" BS on ESPN's NFL Page? What a crock of sh!t. Take one day off and the press wanna-bees are all over your honey-covered-ass I guess. Well, they say (who ever the F "they" are"), if you want attention, go after whom ever is at the top of the mountain and throw stones. The man at the top of the mountain happens to be, Mr. Favre, and he leaves the game he loves standing as one of the GREATEST men, QB, friend, husband, father, prankster, community volunteer, or beer drinker (in his earlier daze) Green Bay (and football) has ever had, or will ever see. "Overhyped"? my ass. Long live the legend. Glass houses...

about time
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BeerKid ? You still here? Anyone still here? They say Time heals all wounds, but I am not so sure that holds so much anymore. Found this on the Internet. Sounds appropriate, somehow, or at least might bring a half-smile to some. There are normally 5 stages of Grief.

The traditional 5 stages of grief, the ones you learned back in Psychology 101:

1.Denial, 2.Anger, 3.Bargaining, 4.Depression, 5.Acceptance

The people of Wisconsin have expanded this list with 7 more stages, making a 12-stage grief-handling process that is unique to our state; (since Brett announced his retirement).

1.Denial, 2.Beer, 3.Anger, 4.Beer, 5.Bargaining, 6.Beer, 7.Depression, 8.Beer, 9.Acceptance, 10.Beer, 11.Beer Run, 12. See No. 1 and try again.

Lemondrop
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4 words only........... thank you brett favre!!!!!!!!! PACKER SINCE 1965... GOD BLESS... PACKERS 4 EVER!!!!!!!!

BILLYBOY PAPPAS
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Hey, I just saw that Mike Florio over at Pro Football Talk had the clear vision to give Brett Favre the newly minted PFT Boomer Esiason Award. Congratulations Brett!

Duane in Almost God's Country
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Quoth Lombardi...

They may not love you at the time, but they will later.

Saturday, March 08, 2008

A Public Service Announcement... 

Thursday, March 06, 2008

Spew Off Speak Out... 

Today it's thursday, so it must mean that Brett Favre's News Conference will held at 11:30am CST. NFL.Com is offering a link - Favre Press Conference - for those of you away from the TV and interested in what Brett will have to say today.

I'm sure that Packers.Com will have the conference feeds too... here's their Video Page that has several of the last few days interviews and comments from different Packers personnel, and here's the Audio Page link. Worth your time...

Also, Chris Havel and the Gang over at WDUZ (Packernet's Radio Replay) have some insight and commentary to add, I would start with the last half of Sportsline's 3/3/08 show, before the announcement, and then catch up with the Sportsline shows for 3/4/08 and 3/5/08. Also worth your time.

And don't forget Cheesehead TV's Packer Transplants Podcast, which can be found at their website or through ITunes. This week they have their own highlights over the years tribute to #4.

BeerKid - Still Pack 4 Life!
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Thanks for everything, Brett. There will never be another one like you. The greatest football team and the greatest fans will never forget you. I can only look forward to the day you come back to shake the hands of the next Packers championship team. There will be more championships.

T-Bag from De-toilet can go help Millen wash old man Ford in the shower.

Ruppert
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T-Bone, T-Bone...Fat,drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life son.

Dougie08
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Who is the T-bone a-wipe, why is a Detroit fan visiting the web pages of other team's fans (talk about loser) and why is T-bone's mother licking my schlong? T-bone loser - go put your pump on your wee-wee so you can grow up. Punk. Detroit licks my lingum.

Belairjeff
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Anyone who says "Brett Who?" after Rodgers has a good game should be forced to live with T-Bone for a year.

Scott S
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For the most part, the rest of the world gets to retire in private. We are allowed to shed our tears and experience our regrets behind closed doors. Brett Favre had to face the public on national TV with a global audience. Anyone who have ever thought about how hard it would be to get up and speak at a funeral about a dear deceased loved one could feel Brett's pain today.

He once again showed human side that makes him special. A classy guy who is not afraid to just be Brett Favre even if that means having tears streaming down your face in front of the world.

We will miss this treasure of a man. He shared the better part of his life to date with us. He allowed us to be a part of his family and his life. Our lives are intertwined with all the joy and sorrow that is Brett Favre. Births, deaths, weddings and funerals....they all seem to have the constant storyline of Brett Favre weaved through them. Every other obituary in small town Wisconsin newspapers proclaims the deceased's life long loyalty to the Packers.

We will miss our gunslinger with the human heart. It has been a joy to watch him play.

Draft Fan
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I don't know who was crying more during that press conference, me or Brett. Somehow I feel better that he feels almost as bad as I do.

lostinutah
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Watched it LIVE on ESPN. Sorry BK, this was the most painful and tearful thing I have watched on national TV in a long time. I watched Larry Bird retire, and he was the GREATEST most selfless NBA player of all time.

This really hurts more. Alot more.

Lemondrop

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To me, it's obvious. The press can say whatever they want... this man just got tired of being "Brett Favre" and everything that came with it. Brett said it a couple years ago in a press conference leading up to (I think) the '05 season that he "wasn't sure he wanted the ball with 2 minutes left and down by a touchdown in the 4th quarter". After he said that, as a Packer fan, I was ready for A-Rod to take over right then and there.

No one thought that Brett would have the year he had last year. I'm thankful that he gave us one last year of unforgettable memories. And, it's not the fact that his first completion was to himself, nor the fact that his last pass was an interception...it's all of the memories he gave us in between...both the ups and the downs...and that's what I'll remember. None of us will ever be able to truly understand what it's like to be Brett Favre, but I'm thankful to have had the opportunity to live at least a part of my life through him. Best of luck to him and his family...thanks for all the memories. You and your passion are an inspiration to us all and always will be.

Greg
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brett farve never quit so he is a great QB for all time.

bc sucks
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Watched the press conference today. A time period has passed. I hope the managment and players are up to the challenge of this coming season. Now the time comes for Ted,Mike,and Aaron to show what they are all about. What are your predictions for the Packers record this coming season? I am going with 10-6, providing Aaron stays healthy.

Live and Die with the Pack

CAMP

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Alright so I watched the WAY TOO LONG retirement so-on-and-so-forth this morning yeah It's too bad eras end he's an awsome guy!But crap people it's football.....theres no (not supposed to be) crying in football!!!Lets end all this on a good note and "ketch-up" Brett Favre the bass-fishin' champ 2 years from now and concentrate on the current PACKERS and the draft and new DB's or CB's that we need.I lov'ED Favre like people lovED Lombardi Thank You for your awsome contribution now who's next?!

Big Ern said so!!!!
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Well, I don't know if it's sunk in yet or if I just think so. I guess I'll see when The Pack signs an experienced backup QB, or when camp opens, or when (Wait! Maybe Rodgers breaks his leg on Bigby during the Family Fun Night scrimmage and,...uh, never mind.) the preseason opens, or, or, or.

I know I know he's done on the field, but I'm still hoping to see him perform on TV again. Here's the deal: Tony Shaloub is a Packer fan and Mr Favre has already cameoed on the big screen. Wouldn't it be great to see Monk encounter Brett and Deanna in the midst of some intrigue-filled murder? I've never been one to rouse rabble, brand fires, or mogue demas, but I'm thinkin if enough of us write USA/Monk, they might take notice. Any Monk fans in the Palace? (Not talkin to you, T-Bone. That show go way over your head cuz they use big words and stuff like that. Like BK said, you still workin on whole words and sen-ten-ces. Just keep tryin and watchin Big Bird and the gang.)

BK, about T-Bone, I understand acknowledging him only encourages him, but I want him to stick around. You'd have to dig through mountains of idiotic rantings on continents of blogs to unearth such a sparkling example of wanton stupidity, but because of Packer Palace, it comes to you....in small doses.

Plus, if it weren't for packerpalace.com and Lord knows what other, horrific sites, T-Bone might actually leave his room, meet real people, and cause them great distress. Think of his presence here as your/our small part in keeping idjits (at least one) off the street. The best part is T-Bone will never realize he's being baited because writing "adult" before him is like spelling out words in front of a 5-year old.

Go Pack!
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I believe the last time I was at Lambeau, the LIONS WERE GETTING THEIR ASSES BEAT. BY THE THIRD STRING OF THE PACKERS. 'Nuff said. T-Bone, you are a true LEWSER (as they say in Pittsburgh).

Deanna said it best: "He's my Brett. He's our Favre". Thanks Brett.

lostinutah
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BK, Heh heh, I just had to lash out a little bit.... sick of seein' T Bone-head's worthless crap on our site. I didn't think about that before, he IS almost using actual words....good boy, T-Bone! Give him a cookie! Up until now, I didn't think I could have it out like this for any other fans except 'Da Bums'. Now, T-Bone tops the list, with a bullseye on his forehead. But you're right. He's not worth the time.... Green-n-Gold 4-ever, baby!

Lady K
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You need only look at the laundry list of quarterbacks that not only came and went under Farve's watch but the list that played back-up to him and the number of coaches that he played with all while wearin' Green-n-Gold that will give every other douchebag team a reminder that their qb's will retire like a fart in the wind compared to our guy!!! GO PACK!

Big Ern said so!!!!
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Read this and tell me you don't hear (in your head as you read) the voice of "Chris Griffin" (Family Guy, Peter's son)... "Obviously, when a team drafts a quarterback in the first round, that's a pretty big statement,'' Rodgers said. "At that time, Brett felt like he still had plenty left in his tank and those are some pretty difficult terms to come in under. That first year, we were just teammates. Then came the evil monkey in my closet!''

about time
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HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHA HA He's gone this is the greatest day of my life and you toothless losers have no life so your sitting crying about him all day get lives and go to a dentist. By the way I know you have Favre posters up in your little shanties well why don't you start collecting him for the funeral in two years when Favre turns 90. HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HA.... by the way i'm not happy because I think the Lions will be good, I am happpy because you are alll so miserable and I am the happiest person in the world. When you cry I laugh and celebrate. HAHAHAHAHAHA HES GONE!! HES GONE!! HES GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...OUT!

T-Bone from Detroit


Hey T-Bone, that's cool to be delighted in some of our misery, I was just as happy the day Randy Moss left Minnesota, so enjoy dancing your Ypsilanti jig around as much as you need to... we'll still be here, the Lions will still suck, like the 50 years before. Out!!! BK
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Well, well, well..... I see that T-Bone has come back to the Palace, after his stint in the Methadone clinic. Now I see he's pissed, because he knows that NO quarterback from the Lyin's will EVER be memorialized like #4. It makes him sick to see how many people in and out of the NFL just love the guy. (it hurts when you're wrong, doesn't it T-Bone?) There is NO other player in our lifetime that has the respect, and love that Brett has. He isn't pretentious, he doesn't play 'just' for the $$$, and he is all heart-on and off the field. He takes the blame for bad plays, just as well as giving credit to others on the team when they had a win. He knew it wasn't just about him, but they media would make it about him. That's the role of the QB. If you win, he gets the glory. If you lose, he takes the rap. He was ok with that, week in and week out. Your crybaby Kitna wanted to find blame in the refs, the playcalls, etc. Brett just took the shots, and rolled with 'em. So say what you want about Brett, it all just washes off, because you have no foundation in what you say. It's just the ramblings of an idiot from Detroit, who should be on his own teams' fansite--oh that's right, THERE IS NONE!!! Loser!

Bears Suck! Lions Suck more! Can't you tell you're not welcome here, T-Bone?! You don't disrespect someone in their own home, don't you know that? And this is our 'home', so watch what you say in our house! And I still say, you're not a worthy opponent to match wits with....you STILL haven't responded to my post months ago, so you really don't deserve to spew your crap here if you can't take the backlash. Lady K has spoken! GO PACK GO!!!!!

Lady K



Hey Lady K, you must have known that T-Bone had come back into Packer Palace, you were only 18 minutes behind him. It's easier to glance at what he spews to know it's instantly not worth the time, so there's no need to get all defensive... we almost have him up to using actual words, and I've never not posted anything submitted (as far as I'm aware, I did asterisk out a few sentences of personal vitriol one time) so sooner or later he wander away, certainly after the first Lions Packers match-up, no matter who are QB is, will still be a win for the Pack! BK
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Quoth Lombardi...

It is essential to understand that battles are primarily won in the hearts of men.

Tuesday, March 04, 2008

Has He or Hasn't He?  He Has... 

So according to reports from both Jay Glazer at Fox Sports and Mike Florio over at PFT, Brett Favre is going to retire. Only one problem, nothing is official and we're getting words like "may" and "believe" as in "We believe that he may have already told the team in the last few days". We also have words (I'm paraphrasing here) allegedly from his agent, that although Brett is healthy and could play again this year, Brett doesn't feel the love coming from the Pack, but he could change his mind. Now the final straw was supposedly not getting Randy Moss to play for the Packers.

I'm just going to say, it's a good chance Brett Favre will retire this year, I wish that the "breaking news" would be more in line with "Brett is leaning towards retiring...", which would be closer to a factual statement. We'll see, the day is still early and we get a Press Conference at 1pm EST.
Update: Even though the stories were broken a little prematurely - they seem to be accurate and it looks like Brett Favre has informed GM Ted Thompson of his intent to retire this year. Damn...


BeerKid - Still Pack 4 Life!
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I'm a little surprised that Favre is retiring, only because it looked as if he always had fun on the field. And in 2007, he showed that he is still one of the elite quarterbacks in the league. With his leaving, the NFL becomes a little less fun to watch. There's not another quarterback in the league who plays the game with such exuberance. He was just a big kid playing ball on the front lawn - for all the world to see. In my opinion this will be an effect like Jordan leaving the NBA.. The heart of a Champion has left the buiding.

Tom B. - Ft Inn South Carolina
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BRETT LIVES FOREVER!

Pack luva
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Finally setting in. We all knew it was coming sooner or later, and we have been preparing for this for several years now with the annual "retirement watch". But now that the day has passed, and I have had a chance to view the many highlights being offered on ESPN, it is finally setting it. While you have to love the skills, it was how that cat went about business that made him truly special...the overstated "child-like love of the game". In a world of jaded, and self-aggrandizing pro athletes, Favre's everyman ways were a true breath of fresh air. Dude was THE face of the league, respected by all.

Enjoy your family Brett.....and thanks for it all.

"Scott - Formerly Drunk On Water Street"
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I heard that dreaded news today. Didn't believe it at first but then more co-workers kept mentioning it. Then I got home watched ESPN and it was official. It was gut wrenching but we all new this day was coming. Brett Favre is retiring.

I have bee a Packer fan since '95 and in that time I had the pleasure of seeing one if not the only greatest quarterback ever. So many sundays I watched Packer games and watching my emotional existance balance on every throw, touchdown, interception, hit, win, and loss. Watching the man that made it all happen right before my eyes. I fumed at his disappointments, and rejoiced in his childlike joy and celebration. I watched a common mand doing uncommon things.

Thank you Brett Favre, thank you so much for the great memories all of us in Packer Nation were a part of. You were the reason I became a fan of you and that little football team in Green Bay. You were our hero and our friend. You made us believe in the impossibe. You made us believe in you.

I got to see you play here in Kansas City as you beat the Chiefs 33-22 this past season. I can proudly say. All of us in Packer Nation, when we go to bed tonight just pray and thank god for Favre and Pray that we will make him pround in these up coming years in titletown.

Thank you #4 love you forever.

Jared S
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A Bears' fan I work with was giving me some crap today. Asked me if it was a "really bad day". "Hell No!", I said. "I'm glad I got to watch every year of Favre's career."

But being the a-hole that I am, I couldn't leave it at that. I said: "I wonder if ESPN will devote a whole day of programming when Rex Grossman retires?" He's a Cubs' Fan, too. So, I then congratulated his baseball team on 100 years of losing.

The only real sad part of the day......I wish I could have retired at 38 years old!

Todd _ The Iowan Packer
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wow...that Sign Boy video (see down below) is pretty awesome! I'd expect Freeman's agent to be contacting him anytime soon for that last footage... oh the memories!

tirademan aka BeerScout
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HOW! can a real man RETIRE, RETIRE when your last pass was an INT. guess Brett really didn't care about records. I would have thought at least GO OUT with a TD or give mikey strahan another shot at a sack OUCH THAT HURTS SOUNDS LIKE I'm unemployed in mich.

SteveO GB WI
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03/04/2008.... The day the music died

A long, long time ago... I can still remember How that QB used to make me smile. And I knew if he had the chance That he could make those pack fans dance And, maybe, they’d be happy for a while.

But that March made me shiver With every paper I’d deliver. Bad news on the doorstep; I couldn’t take one more step.

I can’t remember if I cried When I read about his career ride, But something touched me deep inside The day the music died. So Long Brett

Every Packer Fan on Earth and beyond
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OH bullsh*t, were fine we all knew Favre was going to eventually retire!Good for him remember he's a F'N MILLIONAIRE several times over he has a hot wife and we's loved by everyone!!!!Thats the way I would love to retire (somehow they don't re-negotiate COOKS contracts) So good for Brett Favre Wer'e still #1,The B--rs still suck and I'm still BIg Ern! GO PACK GO!!!!!!!!

Big Ern said so!!!!!
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When the news broke today, I called my sister at work, and she made me repeat the news again, as I was so broke up. I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT! Holy Crap, it can not be true. Brett needs to leave the Packer fans with a parade, like Elway did. I can hardly type, BK.

Lemondrop
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Stated above: Brett's final straw was that he wouldn't be playing with Randy Moss and the Packers didn't try harder to bring him to Green Bay last year. Who the hell would have ever thought that 5 years ago when Randy's ass was hanging out under the goal post at Lambeau the playoffs. If that is true, that he was that upset because Randy is with Tom and not him in the Green and Gold, especially when he has talented receivers around him. Not only does he need to retire he need to be checked for early dementia. Lets hope that just speculation and didn't factor him into retiring. It's time Brett to go to Mississippi, do a little jug fishin for catfish, bale a little hay, and drink a few Jack and cokes, slip it to the wife and relax. Maybe do a little duck huntin over in Alabama Lakes with Buddy Hubbard, Cooter, and Winky.

Wild Bill
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we are so screwed, rodgers can strangle my dangle, craig nall is our future whether you like it or not and it doesn't look that bad....

Regis Mokena IL


BeerScout, is that you? Oh, hey Regis, thought you were someone else who never shuts up about Craig Nall - as seen here 2 weeks ago - Oh I like Craig Nall, he was one reason why drafting Aaron Rodgers didn't seem to be necessary, but at this point, he's not under contract to the Packers, so it's no given he will be on the team this year. BK
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I'm still hoping maybe this is just an extension of the years-old tradition of us being scared that he'll be gone forever. Say it ain't so...

Luke in Dallas
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Beer Kid, I too was sitting at my desk when I heard the news. It really didn't hit me like I thought. The main feeling I had was of a 90 year old grandfather that has been sick for a long time, and finally passed on. The thoughts of all of the great times, as well as all of the heart attacks that he gave me.

Then, I turned on NFL Radio. A guy from Green Bay called in and he started talking about all of the great things I had just been thinking about. Just when I was feeling great, he started crying. This triggered a waterfall of tears that didn't stop for 30 mins. I couldn't stop. 40 years old, and blubbering like a used cheerleader.

Being a life long Packer fan, I naturally started thinking about the following: Tagge, Hadl, Delgaiso, Whitehurst, Campbell, Zorn, Ferragamo and so on... I cried for another 10 mins. Tomorrow I will start to think about the future, but today I will drink with my fellow fans and reflect on all that Mr. Favre has done. Thank You Brett

BigOly 74
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Could anyone lead me to the most complete Brett video?

tony


Hey tony, I don't about complete, but BeerScout recommends the video that Hamilton has a link to - it's down below. BK
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I found out right when they broke it shortly after 8 this morning on Espn. It didn't hit me till around 11:30. Shock or Awww! I maybe didn't believe the news on how horribly it was announced. Unprofessionally in many ways. But either case I watched some highlights and relieved some of the past that really brought me to the brink of watering eyes. You know that feeling when you get goosebumps and all those little hairs stand up after watching Brett play the Raiders after Erv's passing. It will get you every time.

Favre you are a legend, an icon, a hero and will always be remembered for helping put the title back in titletown.

Stay4more
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So what happens in July when camp opens and Brett changes his mind? Do Mike and Ted take him back? Seriously. What if?

ray66


Hey ray66, if Brett's under contract as he is, all he has to do is report to training camp or walk into the locker room the day before the 1st game of the year and he's back on the roster. The Pack have 24 hours to keep him or cut him at that point. BK
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Hey Beerkid, The NFL Network is dedicating a full hour for our number 4, Brett Favre. My family and I are planning on making the trip to Ohio in 2013 when he is inducted into Pro Footballs Hall of Fame. I was in denial all Fucking morning, but when the PACKERS.com website confirmed PACKER NATIONS worst Fucking nightmare I slowly came down to earth, finished my day working for "the man" I came home and after dinner I am working on my fourth "Captain Morgan on the rocks" ... I will miss #4 and so will the rest of the NFL faithful.

Brett Favre retired on the Fourth of March, perhaps a coincidence but I can only say "God Bless and enjoy your retirement Brett”...

We have been blessed with his God given talent and no other team will be able to say how fortunate the team, organization and teams fans have been that one person, one player will be have the impact that Brett Favre has made in the NFL.

Now, if it comes out that Ted "Fuck it up" Thompson had something to do with today's announcement and IF (AND I STRESS IF) Brett comes back for another season with another team, Ted better run for FUCKING coverage and find his sorry ass out of Green Bay before it is officially announced that it is "Ted Thompsons Season" ... I have been biting my tongue with all these rants about how Ted Thompson is a Fucking Genius, but I have a gut feeling that Ted "forced Brett's hand to retire" ... I am and will never be a Ted Thompson believer until we brings the Lombardi Trophy home ... again.

May God Bless Brett and his family. This PACKER fan truly appreciates his talent and hard work to bring us MANY thrills and a World Championship to TITLE TOWN U.S.A.

PACKER PAUL Minneapolis, MN.

P.S. TO ALL OF YOU VI-QUEEN FANS, THE NFC NORTH DIVISION IS NOT YOURS; YOU WILL HAVE TO EARN IT YOU MOTHER F*CKERS. YOU HAVE TO EARN IT. A'IGHT?!?
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I think that Bret Farve is the best

ZAC ARNDT
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Hey BeerKid........... Favre has been consistantly (week in and week out, 250 something???) part of our lives, like a household product. There were twelve year old kids coming out of school w/him at QB, that are now planning their retirements, and have always known Farve to have been QB for the Packers, kind of like those oldie emails. Truth is, is that Favre is revered for his longevity and durability!!! He arrived when we really needed him. He is a record stting QB, but not a championship QB, though it takes more than one for that!!! Rodgers may out-do him?????

Long Live the Pack!!!
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My 21 year old son called me this morning from college and told me it was breaking on ESPN. My son was honestly broke up over the news. I don't mean crying, but sad that the only quarterback he ever knew was now retiring. Think about it, a whole generation of fans knew no other Packer quarterback except #4.

I saw them all play, from Starr( the first QB I saw play), to Hunter to Tagge, to a slew of no names, (well Dickey & Majkowski were a step up) the parade just went on and on. Favre was the best I ever saw PLAY the game.

#4 belongs to the ages now, his antics and love of the game will live on in stories and highlights forever. Thanks for the ride Brett, enjoy your retirement!

Old School fan
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I am sad but he deserves a rest. And i don't regret at all that we dipped into our son's college fund to see his last win. That playoff game at Lambeau in all the glorious snow was just surreal. Looking forward to our new neighbor - Mr. Rodgers 

Gwyn


Hi Gwyn, It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood... Brett retiring is sure going to raise the curiosity factor for the Packers this year. BK
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Check out my video that I shot from the sidelines back in 96-98. My little tribute to the man. No music, just him playing the game. http://www.vimeo.com/752896

Many man tears will be shed today across this great country. Number 4, thank you for all that you did for the Green and Gold. I for one am proud to say that I have seen you play.

Go Pack!!! Start putting up the statue next to Vince and Curly.

Hamilton aka Sign Boy
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A legend – it is a privilege to be a fan during his time - #4 forever

Joe from Ohio
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Brett Favre Forever! Thanks for the memories #4. A true hero in every sense of the word.

Diener34
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Thanks for everything you have done for the fans and the Green Bay Packers Brett

Pat
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Know Favre, know wins. No Favre, no wins.

I must admit though, after being at the championship game and witnessing Favre blow it (again), I swore I would never go to a game again as long as we was QB. Careful what you wish for I guess. Hopefully Rodgers won't continue to be the injury prone china-doll he has been in the past. One things for sure, it's going to be an interesting 2008 season for the Pack.

about time


Hey about time, I love your line... "know favre know wins. no favre no wins" I just hope that's not going to be true, my bartender will be happier, but I'm only happy when the Packers are winning! BK
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Thanks Brett it was an honor watching you play the game. I'll remember the Seattle game when you looked like a kid having fun in the snow. Glad you finally got the chance to play in a game like that!

I'm sorry to see him retire but after 17 years of being away from your family, you miss so much, he really deserves it! One of the greatest quarterbacks I'll ever see in my lifetime. Definitely tip a couple tonight in his honor!

I liked what I saw of Rodgers, he learned from the best, just hope he can stay healthy. Guess they'll be shopping for a couple of back-up QB's now.

Pack Man of WBL
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WEll Finally the old man decided to pick up his walker and wither away in the retirement home. It was getting painful watching him. And I know he has gien you Packer fans such spectacular moments that you will remember him by but when I think of Brett Favre and his legacy 5 or 10 years down the road from now, the thing I will remember most will be the shot of him holding his head in his hands as he walked towards the sideline as he threw away the NFC Championship game. Favre will go out a loser. Thats what I'll remebr him for always doing. They say your only good as your last play, well, Favre's last play was an interception to choke out of the playoffs. He's gone! He's gone! HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA! Also, I want to call him and wish him well does anyone know what nursing home he is living in? HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHA.....Out!

T-Bone from Detroit


Hey T-Bone, your back? wow. You never did respond to all that wonder stuff that Lady K said about you - Taking on T-Bone, but what are you really going to say now, the oldest lamest QB in the division is now Lions QB Jon Kitna. Losing Favre is a blow, but at no point do I feel like I've dropped all the way to the absolute bottom level of being a Detroit Lions fan. Have the Lions won any games in Wisconsin while you've been alive? Go Pack! BK
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Well the day we all dreaded but knew was coming is here but strangely I don't feel suicidal or really even sad. It's kind of like going to the funeral of a grandparent that 98 years old had a great life traveled around the world and done every thing they ever dreamed of. Those funerals are usually more of a celebration life than a sadness of loss.

As Packer fan for life (44 years) I was too young to remember the glory of the 60's, Had to endure the abuse and heartache of the 70's and 80's and then came Ron, Mike, Brett and Reggie... being a Pack fan was cool again.

Brett leaves the Packers and the NFL a much better place the it was before him. He leaves under his own terms something alot of great players can't say, and with pretty much every record in the book. He leaves a very good team for Rodgers to take to the playoffs this year and a smile on every Packers fans face that we will take to the grave. Thanks Brett!

Dougie08

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I am looking forward to an undefeated season now that we have gotten rid of the Packers biggest problem. This guy has been a problem for years. Think of how many Super Bowls we would have won without him. It makes me sick to think of the dynasty we would have been and all the different great quarterbacks we would have been able to see over these many years with Favre. Think of all the great receivers we have wasted on his gun slinger antics. His receivers always made him better than he actually was. Finally talk to any Bear fan or Favre hater, he has always been about himself and these last few years trying to hold them hostage in an attempt to bring in some offensive threats. It was not about having a team that could win, it was about what would make him happy. It has always been about him!! Yeah, I know he played the night after his dad died, I know his wife had cancer, oh yeah, other family members died and his families home was destroyed by a hurricane. Hey, don't we all have these things happen every day back here in Wisconsin, yet we still go to our less than demanding jobs, after taking a week or two off to grieve. As I said, it was always about him and his family, not the team!!

Well, all of you that wanted this guy gone, got what you wanted. The paragraph above is what I have heard from various segments of the Packer Nation for years. Brett Favre was the heart and soul of the Green Bay Packers. He walked on the field every day and expected to win no matter who was on his team. He had flaws like we all do, but I do know this guy would give his “left nut” to win every Sunday, Monday, or Thursday. You and I know when you were kids this was always the type of guy you would have picked to be on your team. He would give you a chance to win, made it fun for you to play that afternoon, and he showed up every afternoon, evening, or morning to ready to play again. I have loved to watch him play over these many years and when the season starts without him something will be missing much more than a great player. When he walked on the field you always knew there was still some lighting in a bottle somewhere in his pocket. No game was ever a sure loss if he was able to walk on the field.

I am just one fan who will miss this time period of Packer football. Long live Brett Lorenzo Favre!!

CAMP

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I'm sitting at my desk at work, openly crying into a paper towel. God bless Favre and his family. Now we see what Rodgers can do!!!

ltlwing47
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I am SO GLAD I went to the Detroit game in GB this year. I have some beautiful pics of Brett playing in his last regular season game at Lambeau. Priceless. I will miss you, Brett.

lostinutah
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The Breaking News frontpage at packers.com has been deployed....intentionally.

Sigh... Watching #4 for lo, these many years has brought me tears of joy and sadness, great hopes fufilled and dashed, gut-wrenching minutes that seemed like hours, and more than one person's allotment of "did he just do that" moments.

Thank you, Mr Favre! (pouring some Red Bull on my Favre jersey and chugging the sorrow away)

Go Pack!
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NOOOOOOO!!!! I just heard that Favre is hangin' it up! What a crash to my day, and the day just begun!! I could've sworn that he'd be back for another year! I'm sooooo bummed! Well, I guess we now get to see what Rodgers can do..... This is a very sad day for me, I can tell ya!

Lady K
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Beerkid, Truly a sad sad day to see Brett hang them up. From my Favre Fathead on my office wall along with the signed "My Way" picture. My third grade daughter just called from school, she is a huge Favre fan.

I hope he is not making a knee jerk reaction because we didn't pursue Moss again and he resigned with the Pats on Monday.

At any rate thanks to #4 for many great memories. Packer football will not be the same. I hope he has many great years with his wife and kids. He certainly deserves that.

Mellonhead
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He's gone. Remember to tell your grandkids that you wathced the best ever!!!

Les in Janesville
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I am just going to cry like a baby if he does retire. However, I still say getting Moss would not be a good idea.

lostinutah
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Quoth Lombardi...

Leadership is based on a spiritual quality; the power to inspire, the power to inspire others to follow.

Saturday, March 01, 2008

Speak Out Spew Off... 

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BK and BeerScout, Congratulations on the award for “Packer Fan Web Design Excellence 2008”! You guys do a great job and deserve a tremendous amount of credit for all the time you put in for us Fans! We love it!

Kinda wondering, what does the award look like (or how did it taste)?

Thank you for documenting the origins of “The Palace” for all to read. Can you make that a menu selection? GO PACK, GO!

Boz

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Keep up the great work. I look at what TT has done since he got there and with Coach Mike what he has done. I remember 2 years ago when TT hired Coach Mike, there was a lot of bad talk about hiring him. I've been a Packer Fan for so long, and I'll give any Coach a shot to take the Pack only up. He's done a good job since he got there. I'll talk to you later, take care.

Lee


Hey Lee, Thanks for checking in... a few years ago, TT was unproven, well it was more like he hadn't successfully sold us fans on his plans, and MM was a rookie head coach chosen over a fan favorite (Jim Bates), so yes there was a lot of bad talk about both of them... the Pack made it to 14-4 last year... yet now both TT and MM are now only unproven in big games, something I hope can be changed for even a better football season for the Green Bay Packers this year. BK
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I wish the Packers had been able to keep Cory Williams, but I think Thompson did a good job of getting a second round pick for a guy they would not and could not sign. He was due to be overpaid by someone and the Packers could not afford to break the bank to keep a guy where they have so much depth. I just wish Cory would have been a little more gracious when he got to Cleveland. Packer fans liked the guy and I don't think he was mistreated in Green Bay. I think anyone who burns a bridge is not being too smart. There are plenty of reasons to be classy when you change teams and almost no reason to take a shot at the old team.

DraftFan


Hey DraftFan, as the saying goes: "Dont' let the door hit you in the ass on your way out". Excuse the Packers for helping in launching your NFL career, giving you Reps at DE for you to show your potential talent and only demanding a 2nd round draft pick in return. An incredible move by TT, and you know, the Pack used to play the Browns in the preseason quite a bit, I wonder if we get to this year, I loved to see the Packers play against now DE Corey Williams and the Browns.. BK
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Hey BK, Thanks for taking me down memory lane (The Birth Of Packer Palace) in regards to the computers you had to work with back in the day. Gosh, I almost forgot about MS DOS! Oh my, have we come a long way! Makes me think about one of my first cell phones. No, not the 'brick', that many construction foremen carried. No, it was the old, big, Motorola flip phone. The kind that couldn't fit in your pocket if you tried! The I 'graduated' to the 'phone in a leather case' that had a handle; I could carry it with me or keep it in my car. What a dope I was!

But even before that, let's talk pagers. I worked as a courier, and we were given pagers. If we were paged, we had to pull over and call the toll-free number to the office, get our messages, and keep going. Boy, when we got the pagers that displayed text messages, we thought we were hot stuff! Those things were about the size of a small Nintendo Game-Boy, and stuck out on our waist like a sore thumb. But we thought we were something'!

Now, I drive around and I see a phone booth, and I wonder why those are still around. It's almost comical to me to see them in use, those relics! It's amazing to think how far we've come in just a few short years....I have to wonder what it's going to be like when I have kids, and they are ready for their first phone, computer, car, etc.

Old gadgets, unlike clothing fashions, don't "come back into style" like a vicious circle. Technology just keeps going....so even though the afro will come back, dolphin shorts may come back, and certain types of music are popular again, computers/electronics will never stand still, and we'll never see MS DOS, or floppy discs, etc. Viva Le Technology!

Lady K
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Hey BeerKid...  Looks as if TT has himself in a pickle. This draft is pretty deep and deep at the positions of need. He could almost finish filling in the rest of the roster(3 picks/first 2 rounds would be a good start and should land all decent players, fast TE and two CB's). Maybe even an OG??? He can move up w/that second rounder from the trade and get a studlier(is that a word?) player(theoretically). I think he needs a couple studs yet, for a SB run. What-to-do, what-to-do????

Great move on franchising Williams. I can't say I blame Williams for talking a little smack, he knew what TT was doing(keeping him to trade, could have backfired, though TT knows you can't have too many good linemen). The Pack has two and maybe three (if Harrell picks it up) DT's better than him so it made perfect sense to trade, cause you can only play two. As we all saw, in the games when running was needed (weather), the Packers couldn't and the other teams could (Bears/Giants).

Obviously, we still need some improvement in our OL/DL lines. But I think it turned out win-win for everyone, which is what you want. Williams is an excellent fit in the 3-4 as an end, not quite big enough for the run in the 4-3. Should be interesting w/that extra pick this year. TT knows what he's planning to do, you can bet. Can't wait to see.

Long Live the Pack!!!
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Coors is ok in small doses like dr phil or ridin' a moped. As long as no one you know sees you it's alright! Lets get the draft right this year!!

Big Ern said so!!!!


Hey Big Ern, I agree about Coors in small doses, 'cept there's photographic evidence of us drinking Coors... during the Packers Bronco's SuperBowl XXXII game. Oh the shame... BK
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If you guys didn't (know) free agency has started thanks for the updates. RETARDS!

Pack luva


Hey Pack Luva, updates? OK here's 1 update, the Packers trade of DT Corey Williams has been official confirmed. The Packers are not known to be involved in any other transactions at this time, the Jason Taylor rumor doesn't qualify as much, but we'll see. If it's other breaking news and some wild speculation you want, go to one of my favorite NFL sites, Profootball Talk's Rumor Page, get your free agency updates where all the rest of us are getting ours. For more Packers related news, start the day over at the PackerNet.com's Article Page. Don't forget our Links Page where you can find many excellent blogs and other websites centered around the Packers. Thanks for stopping by. Be Pack 4 Life! BK
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Congratulations on the award and sorry to see the Coors (shudder), though you offer a very understandable reason for its presence.

As long as Jolly, Harrell, et al, don't utterly fail, the Williams trade looks like a great move by TT. By his creative use of the franchise tag, the Pack not only got a 2nd round pick, but also gained about $5.5 mill in salary cap room (Corey's 2007 number was less than a million) for a player that would otherwise been lost for naught.

When I first viewed a picture of this new GM, I was shocked _ I wondered what the hell the Packers were doing hiring Malcolm McDowell. Since, however, I've begun to think Thompson actually operates with shrewd determination, a trait his actor look-alike often feigns.

I'm not yet completely sold on TT, but instead of immediately questioning his decisions, I am now likely to first ponder what his motives could be, to wonder What's He Building in There? (thank you Tom Waits).

With McCarthy seeming to be the real McCoy and Ted not being too clever by half, the future doesn't look like a minefield of Mandariches and Hadles and Favre's presence no longer seems to be the only thing between the Pack and decades in the Wilderness.

Of course, my conclusions could be wildly inaccurate and the Pack could go the next decade without playing better than 7-9, but they're not and they won't.

Go Pack!
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Quoth Lombardi...

The achievements of an organization are the results of the combined effort of each individual.

A Public Service Announcement... 

The Public Service Announcement Posters were first taken inadvertently, and then with more gusto from our part, and although some are slightly modified from their original condition, almost all of them can be found over at www.AllPosters.Com in their Alcohol Humor section of fine poster products. Muchas Gracias!

The Birth Of Packer Palace... 


It got me thinking the other day, not as dangerous as it sounds, honestly, but it got me thinking about the early days of Packer Palace. Oh, this was over at Cheesehead TV. During his well written musings on nominating Packer Palace for several of their 2008 Titletown Awards, Corey at Cheesehead TV was heaping us with specific praise for our longevity and he pointed out that we had been around for 11 years. Yeah long time, certainly blurs that way. So I thought I would just ramble on a bit and put down some words on what it took to get Packer Palace up and launched onto the Internet back in the slow connection days of late 1995.

It started with us sitting around, watching the Packers starting to play well going into the end of their 1995 season. BeerScout and myself (BeerKid), although at that time our identities hadn't quite yet been formed but the beginning of what were the eventual seedings of soon to be great plans to get ourselves out onto the web, something that was just starting to grow into what you see today. I worked with an Animal Hospital related software, so I had a computer laying around that was used for client data conversions from my workplace, not a great one, but it ran Windows95 and it had a 9600 baud modem installed. But we had no way to get connected on the web without waiting for the newly over the phone subscription to Earthlink.Net (and the personal website space it would provide) and the floppy disc that would arrive in the mail after several days had passed. What do you want me to say, it was the end of November 1995, and BeerScout (as a budding art director) and myself (just a blossoming computer nerd) were itching to create a Packer Fan presence on this new thing called the World Wide Web.

We couldn't hardly wait for the disc to arrive, in fact our tolerance for being patient, well it had hit zero. BeerScout worked with MacIntosh computers at his workplace, but he had this original IBM PC-XT running MS-DOS that his Dad had sent out to him for primitive email use. BeerScout was already a Mac-Guy, so he was reluctant to touch this computer, but it was rigged up with a hard drive and 1200 baud modem and most importantly, the Prodigy Network Service with a functional account for access. Remember back then, you connected to a service via your dial-up phone line, a service like AOL, Compuserve, Prodigy and back then, only a few others. Well, we had this ancient computer (even by 1995 standards), functional only to the point of being able to send text emails, if you had the time to wait, but it was looking like a life-line for us and our desires to get connected instantly, without delay, and without waiting for a floppy disk to be mailed to us.

"Bring that thing down to my house" I told BeerScout, and with it hooked up, we dialed out, connected with his Dad's (Larry - forever our deepest gratitude) Prodigy Network account, spent minutes trying to figure out where to find the Internet Web portal so we could leave the closed world of Prodigy and roam free to find the Earthlink.Net site and to begin our conquest of a desperately needed download. It's finally had begun, 5 minutes and counting, yeah, 8 minutes, oh oh, 23 minutes and counting, ummm, 43 minutes. Hey it was a 1200 baud modem, and it had a 1mb file to download. 54 minutes... So we distracted ourselves with plans of things to come, beer to quaff and what should our website be. You can't do the same old thing that everyone else was trying to do at the time, list out all the historical data ever accumulated on the Green Bay Packers. We can let someone else do that, we're going to be different, once we can get ourselves launched. 17 minutes and counting down now. Then it's Tah Dah!!!! Oh it wasn't that classic windows ding nose, but we had the coveted Earthlink.Net software. We're set to connect. Go go go.

Not quite, the software was now on a computer with a 5" floppy drive and where-as my computer was rigged out with a 3.5" floppy drive. Hey no problems, this is my area of expertise. I pulled the floppy out his computer, rigged it up in mine, copied the installation file off, put everything all back together again, respectively and Baby! We were connected. Through Earthlink.Net and with a nice clean portal to the Internet, no crap from AOL, Compuserve, or Prodigy (although there is some gratitude here too). We were surfing the web for the first time. FTP software acquired, and now we were ready to design our website. Now the big question and problem became readily apparent, what were we going to do for content and what were we going to call our website. Hmmmm, at the time, Packer Plus was the most popular and obvious destination for anyone seeking information on the Packers. So to make sure we would get noticed, we needed to be right above them in any alphabetical listing of Packers related links. Packer Palace was born.

But something else for me came up first, you get connected, you start surfing the web, and you recognize instantly you need a new and faster computer, the 9600 baud modem had already been upgraded to a 14.4 fax/modem, but it wasn't enough. You've got your friend's (Brandy - some more deep gratitude to throw around) copy of Photoshop 3.0, but your computer system sucks. BeerScout was working on a decent Mac at his workplace, he quickly rolled out some images from our previous discussions, the first 4 ideas for Packer Palace, the "Bigfoot in Camp", "Lambeau Mystery Circle", "Hurricane in Midwest", and the "Milk Kid Addiction Controversy". So now was the time, about 1 month after first getting connected, I upgraded my home computer to a Pentium-MMX 200ghz Win95 (upgraded to 128mb of memory and 3.6gb hard drive) with a 28.8 modem. Rock and Roll - Go Pack! Excitement was everywhere, we were getting our first legs and little bit of traction in developing Packer Palace. 11 years later... you can see where we've grown, bigger, badder, and with more participation from all of you out there.

Well, that's the essence of what it took to get Packer Palace up and off the ground in those original wild, wild west days of the web eleven years ago. Sure, everything looks re-packaged to make 1996 our first official year, but the beginning really came at the end of 1995 and some pretty funny old and slow PC computers that are long, long gone from our possession. Ahhh the good old days of yesteryear...

BeerKid - Still Pack 4 Life!


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